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and the french did this ??/ France: Veiled Muslim woman denied French citizenship amid concerns over her 'radical' religious views NO citizenship: Close up of a Muslim woman in a black hijabThe new French reality - radical or extreme Islam not welcomed. Morocco is a good place to live - if you really want to live in an Islamic country. This is what the French government said that they were going to do - and it seems that they have done it. These people have no interest in France or the French - they look only to one day imposing their Islam agenda on the rest of the population. We should the French accommodate people who wish to see their way of live destroyed or transformed into an Islamic one. The marrying of these peasant girls from Morocco's heartland - so that they can have a docile subservient wife - should stop. Other EU countries are doing the same - these include the Netherlands and Germany. Let the Islamic/Arab world take back their own people - those people who hate the west...... France has denied citizenship to a veiled Moroccan woman on the grounds that her "radical" practice of Islam is incompatible with basic French values such as equality of the sexes, a legal ruling showed on Friday. The case will reignite debate about how to reconcile freedom of religion, which is guaranteed by the French constitution, and other fundamental rights, which many in France feel are being challenged by the way of life of some Muslims. Le Monde newspaper said it was the first time a Muslim applicant had been rejected for reasons to do with personal religious practice. "She has adopted a radical practice of her religion, incompatible with essential values of the French community, particularly the principle of equality of the sexes," said a ruling by the Council of State handed down last month and sent to Reuters on Friday to confirm a report in Le Monde. The Council of State is a judicial body which has final say on disputes between individuals and the public administration. Married to a French national, the woman arrived in France in 2000, speaks good French and has three born in France. She wears a black burqa that covers all her body except her eyes, which are visible through a narrow slit, and lives in "total submission" to her husband and male relatives, according to reports by social services. Le Monde said the woman is 32. The woman's application for French nationality was rejected in 2005 on grounds of "insufficient assimilation". She appealed to the Council of State, which last month approved the rejection. In the past, nationality was denied to Muslims who were known to have links with extremist circles or who had publicly advocated radicalism, which is not the case here. The ruling comes weeks after a heated debate over whether traditional Muslim views were creeping into French law, prompted by a court annulment of the marriage of two Muslims because the husband said the wife was not a virgin as she had claimed to be. In the case of the Moroccan woman, Le Monde suggested the Council of State had gone to the opposite extreme by rejecting the woman's beliefs and way of life rather than accommodating them."Is a burqa incompatible with French nationality?" the newspaper asked. The legal expert who provided a formal report on the case to the Council of State wrote that the woman's interviews with social services revealed that "she lives almost as a recluse, isolated from French society," Le Monde reported. "She has no idea about the secular state or the right to vote. She lives in total submission to her male relatives. She seems to find this normal and the idea of challenging it has never crossed her mind," Emmanuelle Prada-Bordenave wrote. Le Monde quoted Daniele Lochak, a law professor not involved in the case, as saying it was bizarre to consider that excessive submission to men was a reason not to grant citizenship. "If you follow that to its logical conclusion, it means that women whose partners beat them are also not worthy of being French.' Source: Daily Mail bloody got THAT bit right for sure UPDATE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- France bans 'burkhini' bathing suitFrance bans 'burkhini' bathing suit pa.press.net A Muslim woman has been denied access to a public swimming pool in France for wearing a head-to-toe swimsuit. Emerainville Mayor Alain Kelyor said the 35-year-old woman was not allowed to swim in the pool while wearing the "burkhini". Officials claimed the outfit was unhygienic and potentially harmful to other swimmers. The woman, a convert to Islam, complained to police that the ban is discriminatory. The incident adds to controversy over the wearing of the head-to-toe burkha or other full-body coverings worn by some Muslim fundamentalists. President Nicolas Sarkozy wants them banned.     The Fox. |
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7/22/2009 8:05 am |
It is injust. It is no libety. Now the Muslims are the victims to be destroyed by the Christian Militia nazi of France? Please for Ladies [post 1995501]
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7/22/2009 2:17 pm |
wow, hun leave it to you to find this, its an interesting issue... where i live it would not even be a question.. our citizenship isn't an award by our government.. that being said its does control access to it rights and priveledges. i do wonder though why this woman sought french citizenship?.. if her life is total subservience?..why does she care?..much less need to a ctizen if she has no intentions of participating or benefiting from it.is it possable that its a way for the familial men in her life were using her, as a way to stay in the country with out be registered themselves? iI don't think as a seperate issue though religon should be a reason to deny someone the possibles they may need as a citizen...the arugement is a big question also, in the context of the world we live.. freedom verus security.. once we chosse security.. human rights become the targets of fearful.. and it easier to lose them then to regain them.... just a though..semper fidelis
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7/29/2009 5:30 am |
Just to throw a spanner into this particular debate... When westerners live in Islamic countries, we should adhere to the cultural and religious norms of that society in order to sensitively integrate. There seems to be an unspoken acceptance that Western society is devoid of any culture and custom that necessitates sensitivity. How is this different from a Western woman going to live in an Islamic country and sticking to her cultural identity by wearing shorts and vest tops? Would this be acceptable? The French have always enforced their own cultural identity very strongly so for example French radio stations must play a certain percentage of French music regardless of the wishes of their target audience who probably would prefer British and American music. Personally I think the French are a little too protective of their cultural identity but I can understand why they do it. This ruling is entirely in keeping with their usual stance.
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Point well made as the saying goes "when in Rome do as the romans do" shame we have lost our identity through so much integration,we now hardly know who we are anymore... The Fox.
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