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Nina Perlman - Amber Dorff - and probably a lot of other female artists  

beffer32 59M
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8/13/2010 5:17 am

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Nina Perlman - Amber Dorff - and probably a lot of other female artists

Quite often money scams are recruiting victims on this website. I just wanted to share with you a nice series of mails I exchanged with one of them. Notice they are not very smart and not very insisting.

Start reading at the bottom (as in most mails made up of a series of replies)

For obvious reasons I have deleted the E-mail adresses.

And as I usually say : when it sounds too good to be true, then it probably isn't.

Take care all,

beffer

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From: me
To: Amber Dorff

Fri, 13 August, 2010 13:53:20Re: Hi

Hi idiot,

And thank you for entertaining me. From the first mail you sent me I knew it was all going to be for money in the end. I immediately recognized the mail since it was exactly the same as when you were mailing me as Nina Perlman. So I had to go through the same first 4 to 5 mails before I could finally see what happens after the first call for money. I must say I"m a bit disapointed ... so little effort you do to try to convince me ... must be that there are really loads of idiots who fall in your trap.

So once again I have won ... the score of 2-0 for me. What will your next try be ?

The only good thing you do is that it makes us go the websites of these artists, so helping them a little bit to be known better. On the other hand, shame on you to abuse of their identity. Not that I suspect shame is a state of mind you are capable of. You wouldn't be doing this lousy job if you could feel ashamed.

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Since this last mail herunderI haven't received a new answer, so I decided to send the mail above.

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From: me
To: Amber Dorff

Hi Amber,

You seem to like to be put in trouble, leaving without bank card. So you just travelled the old fashioned way with cash money in your wallet.
Now, i don't really like your view on things, it almost looks like you don't want to explore any other possibilty to get the money than Western Union. I'm pretty sure that if you are willing to do some effort there are numerous ways for you to be helped out. You could for instance get in contact with the Canadian Ambassy or Consulate where they will be very happy to help you. We could even arrange for transferring the money to one of their PayPal accounts. Or you could ask for somebdy you know to receive the money and transfer it then to you. All this just a few mouseclicks away now since I got the confirmation from the Bank of America that my PayPal account has been topped up.

And no, I still don't trust you enough to send you money just like that. All we did was exchanging a few E-mails, we actually never have seen each other and met in person. I asked for copies of the shipping & exporting documents. Unless you export it with a drug courrier (and then there would also be no export duty) you must have documents from your shipping agency. So, if you want to give me proof of your authenticity and trustworthyness I really want to see a copy of these documents.

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From: Amber Dorff
To: me

Subject: Re: Hi

Hi Sweetie.

There is no way i can use a paypal account, I told you already, I don't have a bank account here in England and i don't have access to my bank account from here since i don't have my bank card with me, as i didn't think it would be needed. I see no reason why you shouldn't trust western union? Its not like there are some small business or something. They are big enough, and also world wide, if something wrong happens to your money am sure they will pay you back. So why can't you use them.

You don't trust me also, why is that? You think i will tun away with your money? You think am lying about the need for money? Why would i lie to you? I have always been honest with you, told you the truth, shared my feelings with you and you still don't trust me? Thats a real shame, I don't even know what to do. The custom wont let me have the documents and wont send it. You really have to trust me, I have no reason to lie to you, I am not a bad person.

Amber.

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From: me
To: Amber Dorff

Hi Amber,

Since you have E-mail, it should only take you a few minutes to create a PayPal account. I don't trust Western Union, too much fraud going on there and too dificult for me to go to one of their offices. I did such thing last year, and the 3 addresses I checked out all were no longer a Western Union office - even if i got the addresses from the Website of Western Union. And no other office close to where I was. They also have quite impressive charges for transfering money and I'd rather spend my money on something different than the Western Union commission.

So, as soon as you have created your PayPal account you can receive the money from my account and then transfer it to your bak account so taht you can withdraw it with your credit card.

Now, I will not send you any money if I can't see the documents from the customs office. As you say, the documents are at teh customs office, so please go see them and ask them to send a scan to my E-mail. I can't imagine they would have problems to do so since this will actually help them to cash money for the treasure.

Can I please see these documents by tomorrow ? The money I transferred to my PayPal account hasn't arrived yet, but I expect that tomorrow I will receive their confirmation E-mail that I topped up my account with 900 EURO.

Kind regards,


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From: Amber Dorff
To: me

Subject: Re: Hi

Hi Sweetie.

How are you doing? I hope things are going fine with you? I am sorry i asked you for money, but i didn't have no more option left, Iasked everyone i know, but they couldn't help me with all i need. It also took me a lot of courage to ask you for help, I hope you wont let me down. About what you asked me, I can make copies of them, but i don't have the copies you are requesting from me now. I still have them with the custom. You need to trust me, I have no reason to lie to you or be unfaithful. Everything i told you is true. I wouldn't be heartless and run away with your money. Its okay if you can't help me until Monday, Sweetie, I don't have a paypal account, and custom would only accept cash payment, or inperson payments, cos i will need to sign some documents while making payment. So if you wouldn't mind we can use western union. Right now am really getting worried and sad about my problem, cos i didn't want to ask you for this help. I would be really happy if you can help me out of this bad situation am in. Talk to you soon.

Amber.
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Sent this one late afternoon

From: me
To: Amber Dorff

Things are getting a bit complicated now ... it's Friday evening, so I won't be able to help you out before Monday ... I had hopes you would have checked your mail before end of business day.

To move ahead I already transferred the necessary amount of money to my PayPal account. It should be available next week Monday or Tuesday I think.

Try to relax a bit and don't think too much of your small exporting issue ... it's not worth it and I'm pretty sure we will be able to get you out of that very soon.

By the way, you should check on the customs documents if your export agent marked it as CAP or non-CAP. I remember a similar issue I once had and switching it to non-CAP just made an end to my troubles. But i must admit it was an export from Belgium.

Enjoy your week-end,


Amber.

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Sent this one in the morning

From: me
To: Amber Dorff


Hi Amber,

I don't really understand ... you ask me for money ? And by Western Union ? I don't really like that.

I will be perfectly happy to help you out, but how can I be sure this is not a fraud ? After all, we have exchanged half a dozen of E-mails and that's about it. It's not that the amount you ask is a heartbreaking sum, but a friend of mine has had a very negative experience sending money to someone by Western Union.

If you want me to help you I need some more certainty that this is not a fraud, so I need to be absolutely sure about this artwork you want to send to the USA. Since your customer wants this artwork, and if I remember correctly already paid something in advance, I need you to ask your customer to send me a confirmation of this transaction. That's one. I can't imagine they are not willing to do so.

Secondly, and this should also be no problem, I would like to receive a copy of the documents of HM customs showing the artwork is ready to be exported but that this last tax needs to be paid. I'm willing to send the money on behalf of you to the customs to settle that. Just have the documents scanned and sent to my E-mail as a pdf-file. Preferably the mail must come from HM customs service.

Or if you prefer, I can also send the money to your bank account so that it will be possible for you to pay or withdraw the money with your credit card. Another option would be to use PayPal, since it's a bit faster than bank transfers. I even beleive HM customs have a PayPal account to accept money due to the rise of Internet commerce.

If all this doesn't work, I can still come over and kidnap you

Waiting for your quick reply,


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From: Amber Dorff
To: me

Subject: Re: Hi

Hi Sweetie,

How are you doing? It is always nice reading from you again. I hope you liked my answers to the questions? I still don't know what I did to be so lucky to have found you, my dream come true... I am so thankful though. In this short time that we've known each other, we have grown so much and I can't wait to see you in person. I really can't wait for us to meet in person and spend time together. Sweetie, I have something to tell you, I don't know how to say this, but things isn't going well with my business like i expected it to. You know i told you that i sent out the artwork to my . About few hours ago, the HM Customs contacted me and they told me they have put a hold on my artwork, because some taxes need to be paid for the artwork and if i don't pay, the artwork will not be released for shipment. I have contracted my in USA, to see if they can send me some money to pay the taxes, because i have spent all my money and upfront payment on the artwork and i don't have any more money with me. I guess i didn't run my budget well. My will not send any more money until the artwork is delivered, because they have already made the upfront payment.

I will not get my pay check if the artwork isn't delivered and i can't meet you in person because i have no money left with me, I need my pay check so i can confirm my flight and settle some other bills. I really want us to meet, I have told my friend about you and she said we are lucky, i have had lots of dreams about this. I can't leave England until my business is complete. I don't know how this sounds, but i am asking you as a friend, I have called my other friends and family for help, they were able to help me with half of the amount i need and I am really down and sad i don't know what step to take. Now I am asking if you will be able to help me with the remaining half? I don't know how you feel about this, But I would really appreciate if you can help me, so i can complete my business, pay my bills and fly back then we will be together. Please help me complete my dreams about me and you. The amount i need is 670 Pounds. I know you will help me and not turn me down. I promise with all my heart, I will pay you back. I will never run away with your money. Believe me.

I am really looking forward to meeting you and spending time with you in person. I will be more than happy if you can help me with this problem, then i will be able to confirm my flight and send you my flight details so you can come pick me up at the Airport as it will serve as a point of contact. We can go from the airport to where ever you want us to go to spend time together. We can maybe have dinner together and then go to my place or your place. I like you and I am willing to take my chances with you. Please don't think i started talking to you because of money. From the beginning this has never been my intention, I just got stuck up with this problem. I didn't even think of something like this, but you should know that, sometimes when you make plans it sometimes doesn't work well. I started communicating with you because i like you and i want us to be great friends. I am not after your money, if you help me, I promise i will never run away with your money. Let me know if you can help, so i will give you my western union information to send the money. Talk to you soon.

Amber.

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From: me
To: Amber Dorff

Hello Amber,


I'm not as sure as you about our personality match. But then again, a relation is about trust and leaving enough room for each other. I hate sticky relations where the two partners seem grafted to each other. It is perfectly normal that partners have on some domains different likes and we should be able to build a relation where such things are still possible. Don't you agree ?

Oh, don't worry about the phone story, I prefer to whisper the words in your ears rather than calling you, although in a not so distant future a phone might just be very helpfull (Hi sweetie ... are you home ? So I can come to your place to .... (just leave the rest to your imagination)).

Speaking about imagination, I was wondering, since you asked all those questions, you seem to be someone who likes to prepare things in advance, think about different scenario's ... right ? But wouldn't you also just want to follow the inspiration of the moment and do perhaps crazy things you might never have done by sticking to a predefined scenario ? I think that when in the end reality does not match the ideal you had in mind you might just be disapointed, but maybe simply because due to many reasons your expectations were too high or too ambitious... or too different. If you ask me, my expectation for a first date is already met if a receive a gentle kiss from you, anything more is pure bonus.

Oh, & by the way, BDSM stands for bondage discipline sadism & masochism. I must say that I'm not really a fan of the last two words, but the first two I definitely like. My wife is absolutely not into BDSM, which is why I started to look on the Internet to find a different kind of women.

Thanks for offering a massage. I will remember that. Most of all I like massage given by a naked women, and with a 'happy ending'.

Nice to hear you sent your masterpiece to your customer. What was it ? A painting, carving work, or something very complex ? Funny way those Americans have to pay with checks for import business. I hope you can trust this customer because their way of doing offers to you not a lot of guarantees. I can realize that for art it may be somewhat more difficult, in particular because you are now operating from the UK, but using modern banking methods would not only provide more certainty to you and your customer, but you also would not have to wait for your paycheck. Thinking about that ... why don't they send the check to your adress in Belgium ? Would'nt that be easier ? (And if so, then you would already be back in Belgium and we coudl already have seen each other ...)

Anyway, all smiles here ... take care,



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From: Amber Dorff
To: me

Subject: Re: Hi

Hi Sweetie.

Its always nice reading your email, I am always happy when i see your mail in my inbox, it puts a big smile on my face. Hows your day? Hope everything is going fine with you? I hope you are not working too much? Are you getting enough time to rest? If i was there with you, I will give you a full body massage to relax you, will you like that? Now I look forward to each day and feel so much at ease with you. I never thought that I would ever meet someone as special as you. I can't wait to meet you. Oh by the way, I have finished my art work contract, I sent it to my in USA, once they receive it, they will send my pay check, then i will pay my bills and confirm my flight, so we can meet in person. I can't wait to meet you.

Let me answer the questions i asked you, then you see how much we have in common. I feel so lucky being in contact with you, because you have everything i am looking for in a man and you are a type of man every woman would love to have, I am lucky to have you. You always make me feel so special and happy whenever i think of you, thanks for being in my life. You have answered the questions correctly and you match what am looking for.

1. What is your favorite color? Blue
2. What's your favorite kind of movie? My favorite movies are action, adventure, fiction and romance.
3. What kind of music do you like? Slow Jazz, Country, Classic, RnB.
4. What kind of food do you like? I like mexican, chinese, italian and seafoods
5. What's the one place in the world you'd like to live? I love traveling and i would love to travel around the world, see different places and learn different kind of cultures, that would be fun.
6. Do you like going to the movies or night club? I prefer going to the movies and having a romantic dinner later.
7. Which sport do you like? I like soccer, basketball, baseball and tennis
8. Do you like watching on TV or going to Stadium? I prefer both. As long as am comfortable. Sometimes, I go to the stadium and sometimes i just sit in my couch and watch on TV.
9. Do you live in a house or an apartment? I like in an apartment, and i have a small studio in my apartment where i work.
10. Are you a jealous type? I am not really, But i can get jealous when i see you kissing another woman or when i see you in bed with another woman, but first i will need an explanation.
11. What is your favorite holiday? I like the summer.
12. Are you a beach, country or city person? I am a beach and country person.
13. How do you spend your free time? I like the outdoors activities like, camping, hiking, sightseeing, fishing, fireplaces, movies, I like going out for a walk, going for long drives and exploring new places of interest.

candlelight 3 course dinner or a quick snack meal ? Candle light dinner.
do you like oral sex ? Yes
wine or beer? Wine
is BDSM something that attracts you ? Whats that?
what kind of books do you like (and read) ? Fictions and romantic.
do you have tight pussy ? Yes
what's the last thing you googled ? Its been a while i googled.
are you interested in 3-somes (mmf) ? No.
what was the biggest turn-off of your boyfriend (besides tha fact that he cheated on you) ? He lies.

There's a lot of fascinating things about Arts, that i really enjoy. Its a nice thing to know that you feel the same way as i do. I just hope things work out well for us. I haven't gotten a new phone yet as i have been busy with my work here. I am sorry about that, but i promise you will be the first to know once i have it because i am eager to hear your charming voice. I could have bought a new one but i don't want to mess up my budget. Though the miles separate us, the bond we have is far stronger. You are the very one I have spent all these years looking for. You make me smile. You make me laugh. You make me whole. I can not describe the giddy feeling I have when you cross my mind.

Amber.

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From: me
To: Amber Dorff

Hello Amber

I've been on small vacation for a few days ... so apologies for having you wait for my reply.

Quite interesting work you show on your website. Have you been painting in Belgium also ? I think I know a few places that could inspire you for some paintings. I d'love to show you these, not only because they are beautifull, but also because they hold some specific memories for me.

Again questions ... you should have considered to become a crime scene investigator besides your artistic carreer.

To tell you ...

1. What is your favorite color? depends on my mood. But probably most often red. I see you also use quite some red in your paintings, I like it
2. What is your favorite kind of movie? I dont like sentimental movies, but almost all the rest I do.
3. What kind of music do you like? pop music
4. What kind of food do you like? tastefull vegetarian dishes
5. What is the one place in the world you like to live? I'm perfectly happy with the place where my house is.
6. Do you like going to the movies or night club? I don't like night clubs, so that leaves the movies.
7. What is your favorite sport? Is watching snooker a sport ?
8. Do you like watching on TV or going to Stadium? None, I don't like to look at sport (except snooker of course).
9. Do you live in an apartment or house? A big old house
10. Are you a jealous type? no, not at all
11. What is your favorite holiday? doing nothing at home for a few days. then it starts itching again to get busy.
12. Are you a beach, country or city person? definitely country, cities are too crowdy & noisy, and beach is simply boring.
13. How do you spend your free time? What's that, free time ?


I'm curious about your answers to these questions. I tend to like things that most other persons don't aspire to. Which makes me sometimes a turn-off, but at the same it's a big turn-off for me to hear someone actually likes to go to the stadium for instance, followed by a night of dancing and yelling in night clubs. For me that's just a way to fill the emptyness of their life. What do you think ?



And you inspired me for a few questions ...



candlelight 3 course dinner or a quick snack meal ?

do you like oral sex ?

wine or beer

is BDSM something that attracts you ?

what kind of books do you like (and read) ?

do you have tight pussy ?

what's the last thing you googled ?

are you interested in 3-somes (mmf) ?

what was the biggest turn-off of your boyfriend (besides tha fact that he cheated on you) ?



Anyway, it's rather busy, so I have to end now.



Kind regards,





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From: Amber Dorff
To: me

Subject: Re: Hi

Hi Sweetie.

I'm very happy to receive another mail from you. I am getting very fond of you. I am always looking forward to an email from you, I am always happy when I read your email, because your emails makes me so happy and fills my heart with great joy, Reading your emails is just like you are whispering the words into my ears. I am a very open minded person. I feel so lucky to have you in my life. I hope you like my feelings towards you. I know this feelings are strange because we have not met face to face, but i feel like we have known each other for a long time ago. I can't get my mind off you. Soon, I should finish my work here, then i will fly back to Brussels. I forgot to tell you reason why i had to fly to England to work on a contract i received from a USA . The reason is because materials i need for the art work are cheap and have best quality here in England. I am getting so eager to meet you, Hope this is okay? Art has taught me so many things in life. When i was in college, my teacher told me that, to be more creative in art, i should learn to have passion for what ever i wanted to draw, carve, mold or paint. More so in friendship, i have learnt that a friendship is not always about sex. It ought to be about passion, tender care and love. With this, we would be able to achieve a more productive relation. Trust me, it works for me in art and i know it will work for us both.

I want us to get to know each other better before we meet in person. We should get to know the basic about each other. What do you think? Please answer these questions. I will not use this question to judge you, but it will make me know the details about you before we meet. so we can get along well in person. I will also answer this question in my next reply so you can know more about me also.

1. What is your favorite color?
2. What is your favorite kind of movie?
3. What kind of music do you like?
4. What kind of food do you like?
5. What is the one place in the world you like to live?
6. Do you like going to the movies or night club?
7. What is your favorite sport?
8. Do you like watching on TV or going to Stadium?
9. Do you live in an apartment or house?
10. Are you a jealous type?
11. What is your favorite holiday?
12. Are you a beach, country or city person?
13. How do you spend your free time?

Yes if you type my name on google you will see my website, www.amberdorff.com. I have all my works on the site. Yes i deactivated my profile already, there are too maybe confused men on the site. I don't think they are multinational, but i am just here in UK to do this work and then send it back to USA. Yes people do say i look young in my pictures, and its nice having you say it also, yes its a compliment. Would be really lovely if you can pick me from the airport. I have been single and looking for a while now, but i stopped looking since we started communicating because am hoping we can be good friends? I am hard working, courageous, smart and intelligent. I will wait for your answers, I will also answer these questions in my next email. You should know, I am doing everything i can to finish my work here soon, because am so eager to meet you. I can't wait anymore. It should be soon. Talk to you soon.

Amber.

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From: me
To: Amber Dorff

Hello Amber,


So you are an artist ! Never thought I would ever get in touch with an artist. Should I be carefull about what I say to you now ? I'd love to see some of your art. Do you somewhere have pics of them posted on the Internet ?

Pitty your boyfrened did that to you. I mean, I don't have problems with cheating as long as it's not behind the back business. As far as we are concerned, you know it, so I hope this is OK with you. If not ... my guess is that you still will find a goor pretendent in your mailbox on the site (but I see you disactivated your profile).

Anyway ... what kind of project is it that you are doing in the UK for that American customer ? Is it something for a multinational company or so ? They often put some piece of art or have their receptions decorated by artists. If you ask me, very often they did not pick the right artist to do it ... but who am I to reject their choice ? The briefing may very well have been to communicate the outrageous technological advance the company has on competition - something that is hard to express in art - and at the same time show they are the youngest company in their sector rivaling the youngest and sexiest profiles on whatever social network there may be and at the same time also completely differentiated from any other company in the sector (yet, they still do sell an absolutely basic standard product to their customers). And all this of course for a low budget and tight delivery schedule anyway.

You look very young on your pictures ... are these perhaps pics of a few years ago ? Or do you have to read this as acompliment ?

Anyway, good luck with your project, and who knows ... maybe I can pick you up at teh airport or at teh trainstation in some time.


kind regards,


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From: Amber Dorff
To: me

Subject: Re: I got your E-mail from FriendFinder-x

Hi Sweetie.

Sorry it took me long getting back to you, i got busy over here, but its all good now. How are you doing today? I receive different kinds of email from the site but I ignore them because i am looking for good friendship with passion, affections and then sex can come in. Its very strange that most of the men on the site are looking for sex only. I know its an Adult site but it shouldn't be that way, right? Why have sex with a total stranger? You might be wondering why am on an adult site, the reason is, I want a man that can satisfy me sexually, that's why i decided to look on the site, but he should also know that sex isn't everything, I am a responsible lady looking for love, affections and sex. I am not in contact with other men I am a one man woman. I don't mind the age different, to me age is not a problem, I like older men and it shouldn't affect friendship. I hope we will be able to build a very strong friendship, based on honesty, respect, trust and love. I am new to online dating and I joined the site because I was hurt by my previous boyfriend about 2 months ago. He cheated on me, well I have forgotten about him and am ready to move on with my life. I am sure we will get to know each other more when we meet in person but would be better to know the basic about each other before meeting.

Thanks for answering my questions from my previous email. Its really nice learning more about you. I like everything you have said about yourself, and you sound like a very interesting and nice person I would really love to meet you, spend time with you, get to know each other and have memorable times together. Can i trust and confide in you? Sounds like you've got an interesting job. Yes i wouldn't mind spending quality time with you too.

Let me tell you more about me. I love camping, traveling, swimming, tennis, writing, painting and lots more. I am single, I am 26 years old and I don’t have . I am the only of my parents. My parents are married and they live together in Canada. I am an Artist, I am into Oil Paintings, Drawings, Sculptures and Artworks, I use to draw when I was a . I studied Creative Arts in college. I have a great passion for Arts, I love what I do, I enjoy doing what I do and I am very talented. About the business trip I was going to tell you about. I flew to England to work on a big Sculpture and Paintings contract I received from my USA . I will be back after I finish my work and receive my pay check then cash it so i can relax and have some fun with my reward. Hopefully next week or this week i will be back. Then we can meet and have a lot of fun and spend time together. Wouldn’t that be great? I am looking for a man who loves holding hands, cuddling, hugging, kissing, and must be good in love making, I like sex as in pure and passionate sex, I love to give my partner quality time when we are in bed together. I have attached pictures of myself, I hope you like them. If you don't mind send me yours too. I will be looking forward to read from you again and I will be looking forward to meet you soon. Hope to hear from you shortly.

Amber.

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From: me
To: Amber Dorff

Hi Amber,

and thank you for mailing back.


Lots of questiosn you ask ... let me try to give you some answers - which I hope you will like.
I live in a small town near Brussels, quite rural in fact, yet so close to the big city I can combine all I want from the countryside with some more urban things. I'm married, but no . Personally, I don't want cause the world isn't such a good place after all. But maybe you can make me change my mind, who knows ...

I work fulltime in Brussels, often till late in the evening beause customers always want things to be delivered tomorrow (well, sometimes they mail in the morning expecting it already in the afternoon). But on the other hand, this job also gives me a lot of freedom to organise my days as I want.

What I am looking for in a women ? Too much to tell, but let me just start by telling you that I'm looking to spend some quality time with you if you want that too.

So, you are here on business. What kind of business are you in ? I work for a data broker. Perhaps not the most thrilling business, but I like this job because every day I help our customeres by providing them exactly what they need to know to improve their business.


Kind regards,



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From: Amber Dorff
To: me

Subject: Re: I got your E-mail from FriendFinder-x

Hi,

I am happy i heard back from you. As i stated on my profile I was born and raised in Quebec, Canada, then i moved to Brussels about six months ago on business. I like Brussels so after i finished my business i decided to stay, Brussels is really a beautiful city. Right Now, I am in Durham, England on a business trip and I will tell you more about my business trip in my next email to you. I have been in England for a week now, I will be flying back to Brussels by next week or this week once i finish my business here. It will be nice to meet in person and get to know each other better. I like sex but sex shouldn't be the only important and I like to make friendship first before sex because I will not have sex with someone i don't have feelings for or some stranger.

I will like to know more about you, so we can get to know each other better. What's your name? Where do you live? What do you do for a living? What are you looking for in a woman? Are you married and do you have ? How old are you? I know you have most of these answers on your profile already, but the reason am asking again is to be sure, because i know most people don't put their real info on sites like that. So i hope we can get to know each other before we meet in person, then we can have a good first date. I wish we could talk on phone but, I don't have a mobile phone now, it got damaged, but I will get a new one in few days. I will look forward to hear from you soon so we can talk more.

Amber.

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Here my first mail to her after she gave me her E-mail

Hi Amber,

Just for you to recognise me ... I'm beffer32 on FriendFinder-x.

Well, what is there to asy. Fisrt of all, wellcome to my country, I hope you
like it here. Are you in Belgium for your job ?

I like what you said in your E-mail, that you are not only here for SEX, but
also to make freinds. If you ask me, SEX is eventually a next step in a
friendship rather than the possible follow-up on a sexdate. Which is why I
proposed to you to get to know each other better over a drink (or if you prefer
a meal) and let's just follow our inspiration when it pops-up.

So, if you would like to get to know me better, just mail back to see when we
could have that drink.

Kind regards,

XXX


beffer32 59M
287 posts
8/16/2010 12:14 am

    Quoting  :

I did that once with a Russian girl, I proposed to meet her at St. Peterburg - indeed because I claimed to have some business there. She continued to write as if I had not said I would meet her there, and once I insisted she stopped mailing. I even proposed her a well-paid job in Europe, but of course, that was not her game.

Getting hard to find really new things as entertainment from these people ...


sexyinblack2011 56F

3/4/2011 8:57 am

You did good to post these scams!
I'm still afraid there are too many desperate men here who'd be so glad to "help out"...

I also noticed lots of men keep the testimonials of fake yahoo girls on their profile, that's really pathetic...


beffer32 59M
287 posts
3/7/2011 3:19 am

    Quoting sexyinblack2011:
    You did good to post these scams!
    I'm still afraid there are too many desperate men here who'd be so glad to "help out"...

    I also noticed lots of men keep the testimonials of fake yahoo girls on their profile, that's really pathetic...
The pitty thing is that there are as you say extremely desperate men. I read the confessiosn of a French man who lost first a few thousand EURO to an African girl, and then fell in a similar trap with a Russian girl. When one has common sense it is hard to beleive a man will pay for the travel agency fee, the airplane ticket, various administrative charges for documents, custom fees for 'importing' goods from Russia to France, ... He stopped paying when he was asked to pay for the custom thing, but all in all he claims to have lost 10.000 EURO on these two Internet girls. The Russian girl made it 'somewhat' realistic by calling him a few times, but he didn't realize she was calling from the USA (he mentioned the prefix of the phone which was the USA country prefix)
All this achieved with at best a dozen E-mails ... incredible but unfortunately true.


SummerGoddess4 58F

12/19/2011 8:18 am

I'm sorry you spent so much time corresponding with such a loser. The moment she said "I'm not a bad person"--well, ok way before that (asking for money) is a clear sign she IS a bad person.

I had this happend to me once when I was trying to rent out a room in my home for college students. I put the ad on craigslist and got a response from a kid who wanted to get my bank account numbers so her rich Daddy in Moracco could 'send' me the security deposit and the rent. Not happening. Besides that she said she was going for her Masters Degree and our college doesn't offer a Masters.

Needless to say that was the end of our correspondence!

Summer

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SummerGoddess4 58F

12/19/2011 8:20 am

Omg! I just realized something--the names Nina Perlman and Amber match my emails on Craigslist. Obviously its a host of "Amber's" and "Ninas" and not the work of one twisted individual.

Summer

Click here to visit my blog: SummerGoddess4


beffer32 59M
287 posts
12/20/2011 5:32 am

    Quoting SummerGoddess4:
    I'm sorry you spent so much time corresponding with such a loser. The moment she said "I'm not a bad person"--well, ok way before that (asking for money) is a clear sign she IS a bad person.

    I had this happend to me once when I was trying to rent out a room in my home for college students. I put the ad on craigslist and got a response from a kid who wanted to get my bank account numbers so her rich Daddy in Moracco could 'send' me the security deposit and the rent. Not happening. Besides that she said she was going for her Masters Degree and our college doesn't offer a Masters.

    Needless to say that was the end of our correspondence!

    Summer
Oh well, I was just curious about what was going to happen. Call it some free entertainment.


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