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Girls and Toys  

rm_ganien 51M
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12/2/2010 5:09 am
Girls and Toys

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rm_ganien 51M
1052 posts
12/2/2010 12:25 pm

Goodness gracious, I didn't see vibrators quite that large but I for one would be nervous bringing several pounds of tech in contact with my junk.

I assume it's easier to masturbate with a vibrator than with one's own finger? The finger is certainly cheaper. For men masturbation requires no special tools or expertise, perhaps it's different for girls. A guy can get off in minutes with the right sort of fantasy, and the less creative guys have porn to help them out. Unfortunately porn is more of a distraction for me ("has she met this pool cleaner before just now?"), it just raises too many questions that keep me from being aroused. Like, are they doing that without LUBE?!

Almost every girl I have dated eventually and sheepishly showed me her collection of toys. Katie has three toys, a monster dildo, vibrating string of large beads, and a pink vibrator with a little bend at the end. I have never used these with her or offered since they do nohing for me. Should I offer?

Temper, have you ever sed the strap-on?


playful64more 60F
1425 posts
12/3/2010 6:49 pm

I have never been a size queen as you say. All of the men, except one have been mostly average size which in my estimation is about 6 inches. But, I have been with a few who were, unfortunately for them, VERY small. Once guy about 4 inches and very thin...I couldn't even feel him inside me. And another guy who I swear was no more then about 2 or 3 inches in length. He never even got close to being inside me. Ya gotta feel bad for those guys. I have always been curious what it would be like to be with a guy more then just average. On one occasion I did...he was eight and fairly thick. It felt quite wonderful, and I was tight, so he had to use a little lube, but once he got going it felt great. He was hitting my cervix, which was ok in the moment, but we were doing it doggie style so he wasn't hitting my g-spot. So, I didn't orgasm. And for oral, he sure liked my abilities, but I love sucking all the way down to the base, and I couldn't with him, he was just too long. All in all, I prefer a guy who is average. I just wish men were more skilled. Most men still have no clue what it takes to get a women to orgasm.

Which brings me to the topic of toys. A few years ago I bought my first two. I spent a couple of hours wandering around a store trying to figure out what I might like. I had an interest in anal sex, so bought a butt plug. I tried it a couple of times, but it didn't really do anything for me, so I never use it anymore. The other was a vibrator that looked like a real cock with a suction cup on the bottom. It was fairly thick and 7 or 8 inches or so in length. As it turned out, I didn't like the vibrating and rarely used it. My clit is very VERY sensitive, so I didn't like it. After a while the cord shorted out anyway. But the suction cup on the bottom became really useful. I attach it to my headboard of my bed so I can be hands free. The rubbery material of it makes it hard yet bendable, sort of. (and your right...whats with the glass toys! Scary!) The rubbery material I notice seems to require a bit of lube or it doesn't feel as good. And what I learned was that I love taking that toy anally as well...what can I say, I love it.

A couple of months ago, I went out and got another toy, almost exactly the same as my original, thinking I would see if my interest in vibrating has changed at all. It came with a little vibrating egg. I stuck the toy inside me while laying on my back, and then put the egg inside the folds of my pussy right on top of my clit. I turned it on low vibrate at first, then increased the speeds eventually to high. All I can say is HOLY HELL that was the strongest most intense orgasm I ever had. Wicked!! I have tried it a few times since with lesser intense results, so I think that either the batteries are wearing down a little or I am building a tolerance for the vibrating. So I am staying away from it for a while to see if that makes a difference.

I have only used my toy with a partner once. I wouldn't be afraid to try it with Katie if I were you. If you enjoy pleasing her and watching her reactions, then you will like to watch how she reacts when you do various things with toys. Using the vibrating or not, and at what speed or how fast or slow or deep you penetrate her with a toy and where. You will be in control, and I think amazing to be at either end of that...either giving or receiving.

Hey...a bit of advice...women love to dress sexy for our men...so you better start noticing new lacy bra and panties or outfits. It does make us feel beautiful and sensual. And we can never be told enough how attractive we are to our mate.

I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR MY OWN HAPPINESS!! (MY LIFE'S PHILOSOPHY)


rm_ganien 51M
1052 posts
12/4/2010 6:16 pm

I'm pretty average by your yardstick and I've had more compliments than complaints about my lovemaking. I'm sure if you're smaller than average, the mechanics of sex can be intimidating especially if a guy is a bit soft as well. I'm sure you have to start and restart whenever he pops out, or as you mention he might have trouble filling you up.

The amazing thing is, guys don't actually care about being very small for several reasons. First, it's something we can't change; and second, we get off all the same whether it's a big vagina or a small one, it feels incredible either way.

In my opinion it's the complaints of guys like my friend Evan that make me feel sorry for the big boys. He says that they never get to thrust hard because they know they're torturing some poor girl's cervix, and that make me glad I can just barely tickle Katie's if her legs are in the air.

As for being skilled, I don't think most men give a care whether you come or not, it's a shoot and scoot sort of deal. Luckily guys eventually decide to settle down or they learn to care so that they'll get a second chance, and that's where you have a teachable moment. Just be sure to tell us what you like.

Back to the toys, thanks for such a wonderful description of your collection, it helps me understand a bit. You see, I get the distinct feeling that Katie was bringing me to the adult toy store because she wants me to get her something, but beyond observing what she seemed to like, I'm not sure what to do. I think you're right, I need to perhaps get her something and then use the toy(s) I get in our lovemaking.

I had wondered what the hell the suction cup was for. I was thinking, surely it doesn't stick to your partner, or your covers (too porous), and my headboard is wood so that wouldn't work either. The mental image I got was a bit silly, I imagined a woman sticking the dildo on the glass door and mounting it and going at it, while her neighbors watch open-mouthed. That's something I could really get into!

I feel a bit weird playing with Katie and toys at the same time because I have a keen sense of the various ways of bringing Katie to orgasm using only the equipment I bring to the table. For example, if I'm going down on her and I put my middle finger inside her, palm facing up, and make firm circles with the tip of my finger, she will have a knee-knocking shuddering orgasm every single time. I can do the same thing if she is mounting me cowgirl-style, since my cock is so hard, in that position it stimulates her in the same place particularly if I grab her buttocks or hips and pull her forward and backward as she thrusts. Then there is the 100% guaranteed method in the missionary position, of putting her legs up and grinding my pelvic bone tightly up and down her mound while inside her. I think most of the time she has three orgasms, one during oral sex (while I'm recovering from her doing oral sex), another with her on top, and the last one is for the final orgasm before she's done and we almost always come at the same time. Occasionally I'm not ready to come and she has some more as we experiment. One thing that's nice and close is that I throw my right leg over her left leg while my left leg is on the inside of her right leg, and I lean over to my left so she's a tiny bit sideways, but I'm very deep inside her and often she comes then as well.

I know that she can come about a dozen times because the first time we had sex with Evan, she came about three times for me and another five or so for Evan, then she was pooped and we rested a bit and did a few more, but she was pretty spent and each orgasm was much less explosive than the one before it. She enjoyed being so heavily used, and reflected about it for days afterward.

So I'm thinking, if we can get off several natural orgasms, and use the toys to bring along a few more, perhaps that's what she would like to try. In any case we'll discuss it and see! But your valuable input will help me a lot!


rm_ganien 51M
1052 posts
12/4/2010 6:20 pm

Oh and yes, about the clothes! It's hard not to compliment a woman who's wearing more revealing clothes than usual. For me, if Katie has her shirt on with no bra, I love it. Yet the sexiest thing she can put on her body is a pair of undies and this one loose tank-top T-shirt that she has. OMG I can come just watching it.


playful64more 60F
1425 posts
12/4/2010 11:45 pm

Thanks for your comments in return as well. I didn't mention it, but my headboard is wood also. Solid wood so the suction cup thing sticks nicely to it, altho I kinda wore the suction cup thing out a bit as it doesn't like to stick as well as it first did when I first got it. I lay on my side and back up into it so I can be really comfortable and relaxed. It's a little more difficult to do vaginal this way as the suction lets loose sometimes, but if I lay on my back and put one leg up on the headboard...it works swell. And, its amazing for anal...just backing up to it. I recorded myself once on my cell phone (audio only) and sent it to a friend in the military. Let's just say he has gotten a lot of use from listening to it. LOL!!

The thing about toys and Katie...you could try using what she already has and work from there. She just may be curious and want to try something new, but if you open a conversation about it, I am sure she will tell you what she might like. You and Evan are taking her out of her comfort zone, so she may be just looking to do the same and experiment with toys.

My experience with having a partner using a toy on me, was kinda cool, and I did orgasm from it. The thing I learned quickly was that I had to give instructions on how hard and deep, etc. I hadn't thought of that beforehand and we used it anally on me, what I neglected to tell him, was to go slower inserting it. When it or even a mans cock hits the second set of muscles...I love that feeling of it trying to push through. So if you go slow enough and you sort of bump into the muscles it sends a shock wave of electricity through me that I have come to love. Eventually the muscles relax on their own and it opens up to allow deeper penetration. But, again, I forgot to mention it and he pushed through much faster and harder then I would have liked. Lesson learned. After that, though I was good about telling him harder and faster or whatever and he could hear by my moaning that I was enjoying it, but I also made a point of letting him know when I got close to cumming. He started talking dirty to me (sort of) that put me over then edge. I am quite vocal and know the people in the next room had to have heard me. LOL!!

My uterus is tilted a little so I have a hard time orgasming. And only with one guy (using his fingers) have I ever squirted. WOW...what an amazing experience that was. The level of excitement to get me to do that was unreal. I have never felt anything like it before or since. I would love to again someday. But squirting is sort of a release, but once I did it, not as satisfying as I thought it would be. I am used to the tidal wave type of orgasm, and squirting is not like that. It's weird.

I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR MY OWN HAPPINESS!! (MY LIFE'S PHILOSOPHY)


rm_ganien 51M
1052 posts
12/5/2010 3:49 am

I'm glad you're doing some good work for the military. Those guys have a pretty raw deal and no one ever appreciates them or gives them the release that they likely need. I'm sure your audio clip has been a great help.

I like that Katie is willing to experiment. She says that her previous boyfriend, the Frenchman, was nicely endowed but the sex was ordinary, even being French he only went down on her three or four times a year. She likes that I surprise her a lot and she never knows what's next, though she did joke at one point that at the rate we're going, we're going to be doing animals and necrophilia before she's even 40. I'm not really going anywhere in particular, just trying to broaden her horizons and see what things she enjoys.

That's too bad about the guy ramming it inside you anally. Most men don't actually know much about the anatomical structure of the other hole because they haven't had it. Not that they know much about the anatomical structure of the vagina! I recommend when a guy does that to you next time, that you return the favor and show him how it's done. He really needs to experience it first-hand otherwise he'll think it's just a lonely open hole, like a second vagina. It's something that's really easily injured and a guy has to learn to be much more careful and patient if he's going to top someone.

I remember when I wanted to finally try anal sex. I only wanted to try bottoming, my friend Evan wouldn't let me do it only one way, so we started with me topping him, and I was pretty clueless about it and I'm very glad he talked me through it. I can't say I enjoyed it in the least. And then when it came to be his turn to top, let's just say even as gentle and experienced as he is as a top, he is much too big and did me some actual damage. It wasn't a great experience for me and I didn't like it. About a decade later this hot asian friend, 5" at the most, wanted me to bottom and I did it for him and it was the most incredible thing ever. I was hooked!

I love women who are vocal. I had too many partners who just silently came and they never let me know. I hate having to ask. If I don't hear it, I keep on working for it and if she has finished without telling me, I'm just drawing the thing out longer than she wanted it to be. I learned with my friend Kerry in the early days to gauge whether she came from how she tensed her leg muscles and such, but you get a lot of false positives that way.

As for the squirting, I've never experienced such a thing. I think there may have been some women who were curiously wet after coming, but it's not a phenomenon I've experienced. I guess I assumed some people do it and some people don't, but you're saying that you did it once and don't usually do it? Interesting.

Can everyone do it? Is it stimulating a certain spot? I'm curious to read more about it.


playful64more 60F
1425 posts
12/5/2010 6:06 am

I'll get back to you on the squirting topic. I have been in bed for hours, but can't seem to sleep...Grrr. I can't seem to shut off my head....double Grrr!! Had a somewhat rough day at work yesterday, so that has been running through my mind among a zillion other things.

I am on long enough now to occupy my mind on something else for a bit, and with the house chilly I am hoping I get cold and want to climb back in bed where its warm so I can hopefully then fall asleep. If I don't sleep soon...will be a very long day at work today.

Anyway, I tend to like to mull things over in my mind and then reply, so if it takes me a day or two...that's why. I'm a thinker! And that's not always a good thing.

Are you getting sick of hearing from me yet? LOL!! Or still intrigued?

Enjoy your day!

I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR MY OWN HAPPINESS!! (MY LIFE'S PHILOSOPHY)


rm_ganien 51M
1052 posts
12/6/2010 8:03 am

Of course I am intrigued! It's always refreshing to find people online who enjoy thinking and writing.

I hope the house wasn't too cold. Mine is pretty chilly except up in the bedrooms where it is mighty toasty. The living area has a lot of windows and pretty poor insulation and though it looked beautiful when I bought it I hadn't thought of the expense of heating and cooling it.

We got a bunch of falling snow on Saturday and it didn't amount to much thankfully since my neighborhood is at the bottom of a long hill that is impossible to get out of when it is snowy or icy. It's hairy even in four wheel drive. Luckily NC only gets snow once every five years or so, and it's unusual to get snow a year after the last set of storms. Crazy!

I hope that while you sat warm in your bed that you were thinking about what to say about squirting. I asked Katie and apparently it's like Santa, not everyone believes in it. Katie says she thinks it's probably staged in the videos, or it's a bladder problem.

Meaning I suppose that she has watched videos about it? It's hard to believe because Katie is very uncomfortable with images of other naked women having sex for some reason. She is fine with gay male porn though.


playful64more 60F
1425 posts
12/6/2010 12:03 pm

I have to run off to work here shortly... It IS real and it's NOT urinating. First time I did it, I was freaked out...but more about that later. I can't beleive people don't think it's real.

I AM RESPONSIBLE FOR MY OWN HAPPINESS!! (MY LIFE'S PHILOSOPHY)


rm_ganien 51M
1052 posts
12/16/2010 10:45 am

Hold the phone, guys have a external G-spot?!?! Is it also known as a penis? Anyway, I'm intrigued now and also very amused by your restaurant story, I wish I had been there!


rm_ganien 51M
1052 posts
12/16/2010 5:52 pm

Hmm, curiously that is exactly the spot my old girlfriend Melody would press when I was about to ejaculate which would send sort of an electric sensation into me and I would stop cold and I would last for hours afterward. I figured it for a pressure point and not a g spot, but as no one ever focused a stimulation there I don't know.


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