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men who don't kiss and don't go down.  

leelaleelaleeela 44F
18 posts
11/22/2016 7:01 pm
men who don't kiss and don't go down.


Last night, I went to dinner and a hotel with a cute guy. Funny, sweet easy on the eyes, and purporting to be just what I was looking for.
I stress in my profile blurb how I love to be kissed and touched.

How I am looking for some one who is a good kisser, some one sensual and with a high sex drive, that makes sure everyone cums.

and then we get naked.....

.....and he does not kiss me, or hold my hand. Or bring condoms, or even go halves in the hotel. He does not turn up on time. I'm a little miffed, but a lot of really cute cruisy men don't have their shit together. I have this covered, I have money, condoms, and a book as I waited for 45 minutes for him to turn up.

It went from he is naked, shows me his dick, puts it in my mouth for about 15 seconds, then gets a condom. this all took under 10 minutes.

I say whoah! We are NOWHERE near this part yet"
"but", he says,
"I haven't had sex in a long time".
So I give in, thinking I will get to taste him again properly in the next round. I have skills, I feel they are being wasted with all this rushing. You should NOT rush head.
I say "ok, you cum first."
let's think of this as the appetizer......

But 15 minutes in, he declares that actually, he takes about two hours to cum. We have had almost zero foreplay. No kissing, hair stroking, no moans or dirty talk, not even a "do you like that?" from him. not even a hug. every time I try to kiss him, he gives me these little pecks on the mouth. He looks uncomfortable when I put my arms around him and kiss him on the mouth. and no, I don't have bad breath. I am a good kisser. I know how to make sure everyone has a good time. I have written declarations of this.

after he cums (it DID NOT take 2 hours), he says
"oh look at the time, it's only 20 minutes till we have to get out of here. better hurry up and get ready"
and I say really? I am pretty sure we haven't been here 2 and a half hours, more like about 30 minutes.

I look at my phone. yes, including a shower, chat, sex with no sound, no foreplay, and a search for my condoms, we have been here 40 minutes. So he has cum, does not care if I have not cum, does not kiss, informs me then about how he doesn't go down on women, as he does not like it.

He goes on to say that MOST American men don't kiss or give oral sex, they only expect to receive it.
I have come across maybe three guys in my life who don't kiss, who were from the U.S, and they didn't go down either. I have come across way more who loved everything about a woman, and were very good with their tongue, very generous with their love making, and very courteous and punctual.

I also paid for dinner and drinks. He asked me out, but then decided I had to spring for everything. Menfolk, you should at the very least GO HALVES, unless you are seeing a woman who is well-off. or a fucking heiress, or some chick who is independently wealthy. Regular women get hit on all the time, and don't have the cash to splash around, if you can't afford your own dinner and condoms.

I think this guy gives American men a very bad name.

TLR don't contact me if you don't kiss and don't make sure everyone cums and has a good time. It's NOT OK

mindworker1970 53M
328 posts
11/22/2016 7:06 pm

Argh. Yet another looser that doesn't get it. I hope your next meeting goes much better.


sphxdiver 74M
21063 posts
11/22/2016 7:29 pm

Sounds like he's full of shit !!!

Real men eat pussy !!


CookiesNMischief 38M

11/22/2016 8:12 pm

- All the collective stories from over the years regarding the overall lack of this and that when it comes to sex, has finally accumulated into a verbal documentary entitled, "Boreplay: The History of Getting Mine Before Getting Yours..."

(I might have to use this for an upcoming blog in the near future...)


tresennui 69F  
2482 posts
11/22/2016 8:20 pm

Many of us have been there too, we are hopeful since we were interested in this person enough to meet we should give him/her a chance. But, if there is not kissing, or any type of physical affection, or flirtatiousness before having sex, you pretty much have to assume there won't be much during. You need to be able learn to end the get together and leave before being disappointed.

BTW this behavior does not have anything to do with being American, There are inconsiderate, sexually unskilled men of every nationality and ethnic group.

There are also a diverse group of men who are just the opposite.

Tresennui
Succumbing to Curiosity...read me at tresennui


tresennui 69F  
2482 posts
11/22/2016 8:28 pm

One more thing...did you meet in a hotel room or somewhere else first?? It is always recommended to first do a meal, or at least a drink or coffee. Never plan on sex before actually meeting, no matter how friendly or sexually compatible you are chatting online or on the phone. Great cyber sex does not necessary mean the real thing will be good.

Tresennui
Succumbing to Curiosity...read me at tresennui


leelaleelaleeela replies on 11/29/2016 2:16 am:
this was the second date, he wasn't overly late for the first. I met him t a coffee shop, and we decided to slide off to a hotel. At no point did he mention the no kissing no going down in all our online and in person conversations. I now ask directly, before meeting

porterpiper1 57F
3755 posts
11/22/2016 8:31 pm

Damn, he was a jerk , dick, asshole all roll into one, he was lying to you, because most American men do go down on women and men, he wanted a free ride


clittywhisperer1 59M
1415 posts
11/22/2016 8:50 pm

i require at least 45 min of me tasting every inch of you ,giving you a few orgasms , making you tremble from stimulation of lesser used erogenous zones ,before i let you start working on me . half of all men are in the bottom half of the love making scale , they are often charming , smooth talking mac daddies who have no actual skill and are neurotic , controlling and selfish , those are the guys most women want , and let have sex with them . the smart , funny, quiet ,skilled guys .get zip . who knows why this is the case. ? ladies ask more questions , follow up and verify, move slowly , make him earn it ,if he disappears fast he was trolling for a wet hole not a woman .


sharmick31 64M/60F  

11/22/2016 9:48 pm

WOW did you ever get taken!!!!.........!! ouch.....


JUSTWANTTOPLEAE4 72M
1720 posts
11/22/2016 11:10 pm

Jerks are Jerks and there's no changing them. After he stiffed you for dinner You should have told him he could pay for the room and if he declined leave him standing there with his dick in his hand!! ANY woman a decent man goes out with should pay for the entire evening as well as make sure that his date is totally satisfied before its his turn! If i can't kiss a woman and give her all the licking she wants she's not the woman i want! The first sex i had was with a babysitter teaching me how to lick her and i've been hooked on it ever since!!! i could share some story,s about her and some of her friends as i learned about pleasing women every Friday night for a long time!!! If i ever took you out 2&1/2 hours are not enough time for me to enjoy your beautiful sexy body!!


JN63JPN 61F  
27439 posts
12/22/2016 4:39 pm

That dude gives American men a bad name. My playmates have been American, and believe you me, none have been shy in the kissing and giving oral department. They all made sure I was taken care of.

Damn . . . I miss my playmates . . . they all moved back home . . . If they were here, I would've been happy to have shared them

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yesican693 46M
1 post
4/1/2017 3:09 am

You would never get this from me. I like to tread all women like queens. They need to cum. And feel good. So I always make sure that this will happen!

Even though he did not had sex in a long time, he should tread you like a queen. You have needs too!

If you wanna have some good relaxing fun LINE me or message me here!


SexInOkinawa 34M

6/30/2019 5:30 am

Hello I am currently in Japan, Okinawa to be specific but will be visiting Tokyo often this summer. I actually will be there Wednesday 7/3/19. I would love to meet a woman like you. It's rare to come across a woman who will pay for a guy, I wouldn't let you do that, I'd cover the charge. Also I love to go down on a woman and kiss well. If you'd like to try to meet, send me a message with contact info. Since I am standard, I cannot read all e-mails sent to me on here. Or you can chat with me on IM on this website.


leelaleelaleeela replies on 8/12/2019 3:01 pm:
Hi SexinOkinawa, sorry to have missed you! I was traveling out of Honshu. Look me up next time you are in Tokyo!

EuropeanGuy15 56M
17 posts
1/23/2021 7:31 am

This guy had no manners, no style and didn't know how to treat a lady. You deserve better, and I can tell you, if we meet up you'll feel like the queen...Both emotionally and sexually. We'll start slowly, ramp it up gradually, and then we'll both come and end up wanting to meet again...

Mail me and we'll take it from there...Have an AWESOME night and take care care, D...


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