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lickuall2197555 48M
27 posts
12/10/2021 7:39 am

very impressive post. you make a lot of good points


Paulxx001 67M
22642 posts
12/10/2021 7:52 am

Nope, I've never been close to even thinking about it. I'm either with a steady lady, or I'm not but multiple women don't interest me in the least.
I have enough trouble handling one, I can't imagine trying to wrangle anything more than my two hands and my *Uhm *... can fondle.
Yeah... 😊 One is a comfortable digit. 😎❗❗


Alannah_cd 66T  
195 posts
12/10/2021 7:53 am

Times have definitely changed. Hang in there...hopefully things improve next year (fingers crossed)! Hope you feel better!

Alannah
xoxoxoxoxo

p.s. I'm a cat person too!


CleavageFan4U 67M
69374 posts
12/10/2021 8:02 am

I'm not really in a "consensual non monogamous relationship" - I'm more of a classic cheating hubbie (though I maintain she KNOWS and is just not interested in changing things!) or more simply "a man-whore".

But to your pandemic point here, I've only been seeing S for most of the pandemic. I DID make an exception last year about this time when an old friend was in town for a visit. And the REALLY SHOCKING NEWS - I've not had sex with anyone new in over two years!

I hope your drive comes back IF that is really your desire.

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Weeload2 60M
1104 posts
12/10/2021 8:09 am

The heart attack thing and meds... yes they can effect your sex drive. I had a heart attack on December 5th, 2017. Two of the meds that my heart doc had me on were clopidogrel and lisinopril. You can research the side effects of both and see for yourself. I call those two 'old people' meds that the doc had stuffed down my throat. For one, I am healing from colon cancer and am currently healing my damaged colon wall lining. The clopidogrel was big time upsetting that healing process, which in turn means that it messes with your colon/intestines. That directly effects the way you feel ! The lisinopril takes away muscle mass as a side effect. It had stopped the muscles that control the pancreas, which in turn was making my pancreas release way too much acids into my internals, starting with my stomach and once again effecting my colon wall lining. I switched doctors, when she requested my medical records we got a phone call from the medical facility where this doctor was employed who prescribed me the post heart attack meds. They admitted that I did not need those meds and all that I needed was two baby aspirine a day to keep the blood thin and not clog the stent which was inserted in one of my arteries. My heart attack was not caused from cholesteral. The artery was damaged while boon docking on snowmobile in the upper elevations when a blow hole around an evergreen tree collapsed. Myself and my sled dropped about 15 feet downwars into the tree and along the way I took a branch poke real hard into my chest. It messed up an artery, and never showed the damage for 18 years. Once again I will say that yes, those heart meds (which I call old people meds) can change you. I am no doctor but have been around enough women long enough to know also that just before your menstration stops when you are over 50, you can lose your sex drive. After it stops though, look out you will become very horny ! ... fair warning. SOme of my friends have experienced this in their later 50's too. Every woman is different. Oh hey, apology for the long reply. Worng or not, it is just my thoughts on that topic. Consentual non-momogamouse relationships have worked for me.. just sayin !

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spunkycumfun 63M/69F
41171 posts
12/10/2021 8:20 am

The pandemic has hit you hard.
I've not heard of the Dirty Show; it sounds great.
I used to host and attend sex parties for clubs. I miss those parties now!


rh1972 51M
609 posts
12/10/2021 9:21 am

"Poly" relationships are mainly the province of those with very low self-esteem; they do not feel worthy of having someone commit to only them, and they lack the ability to commit to only one other.

It is couched and camouflaged by scholarly language to try and normalize it. That language comes from the same deconstructionist, post-modernist cancer that has been degrading society by trivializing language and education: when words no longer have meaning, you can people identifying as dogs, cats, other genders and ethnicities.

It's a desperate plea for attention and legitimacy that is ultimately self-defeating because after all, the people participating in it lack the confidence and social skills to feel comfortable loved by one person, and to love only one person. They require more because they can only handle less.

Usually, the "poly" have other toxic personality traits like "anxiety" and "eating disorders" that then require even more energy to normalize. They often engage in body modification - tattoos, piercings, wild hair colours, scandalous clothing, etc - as part of the daily routine. It is a visual cry for help.

There is nothing necessarily wrong with those things individually, or periodically, but when internalized, it replaces any previous personality. It's drama-filled and repellant.

Sorry.


Logan0867 56M
244 posts
12/10/2021 8:47 pm

" he met the woman he eventually left me for, and I was introduced to Logan who I am still romantically involved with today"

I'd say you got the better part of the deal

" feel his arms wrapped around me, and his lips on mine."

Me too, lover xxoo


Logan0867 56M
244 posts
12/10/2021 9:06 pm

    Quoting rh1972:
    "Poly" relationships are mainly the province of those with very low self-esteem; they do not feel worthy of having someone commit to only them, and they lack the ability to commit to only one other.

    It is couched and camouflaged by scholarly language to try and normalize it. That language comes from the same deconstructionist, post-modernist cancer that has been degrading society by trivializing language and education: when words no longer have meaning, you can people identifying as dogs, cats, other genders and ethnicities.

    It's a desperate plea for attention and legitimacy that is ultimately self-defeating because after all, the people participating in it lack the confidence and social skills to feel comfortable loved by one person, and to love only one person. They require more because they can only handle less.

    Usually, the "poly" have other toxic personality traits like "anxiety" and "eating disorders" that then require even more energy to normalize. They often engage in body modification - tattoos, piercings, wild hair colours, scandalous clothing, etc - as part of the daily routine. It is a visual cry for help.

    There is nothing necessarily wrong with those things individually, or periodically, but when internalized, it replaces any previous personality. It's drama-filled and repellant.

    Sorry.
Your 1st paragraph comes across as a typical Christian condemnation of a lifestyle that goes against your belief system. Having spoken with many polyamorous couples, attending panels on the subject and choosing that lifestyle myself I can tell you that there is no lack of self esteem in most polyamorous relationships. It is neither drama filled nor a cry for help.

Your second paragraph is a bunch of word salad meaning basically nothing. Equating sexuality to identifying as dog and animals is just stupid and your talk of post-modernistic cancer and degrading of society has been the same justification of condemning gays and lesbian throughout history. I'd even bet that you believe those are lifestyle choices and that people aren't born that way.


PonyGirl1965 58F
22090 posts
12/11/2021 12:08 am

I'm a poly person myself.
Can Logan come down to see you?
I wouldn't feel comfy flying and I'm quite healthy.
Hugs!


mc_justmc 63M

12/11/2021 2:41 am

I haven't had anything personal or serious since my divorce in 2011. I prefer to have a regular relationship but as I get older it's harder and harder to find a jigsaw puzzle piece that matches my own. It doesn't really bother me though, if it happens it happens, if not, oh well...


Weeload2 60M
1104 posts
12/11/2021 3:39 am

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EnigmaInitiative replies on 12/10/2021 5:58 pm:
And, those are two of the meds I'm taking. Dear Lort, I'm going to have to have a wee chat with my cardiologist next month when I see him. Or, maybe chat with my primary sooner and see what she says.

I'm so sorry you had to go through all that and hope that you're healing well and fast.

I had a hysterectomy twenty years ago. So, I'm thinking it's gotta be the meds, like you were speaking of.

Don't worry about the long post, I'm a reader...I like it.

They can work if the people in them are compatible and able to communicate their needs well.

Yeah have a chat with them for sure ! Remember that they will first and foremost try to keep you supporting their "pill factory" because it what they learned in med school. Personally, on my own I thought back to where I was feeling good and what had changed. These meds were causing so much stuff that I just quit them on my own accord. Of coarse I noted after a lil while that I was feeling better and for sure I had found the source. Second biggest issue is how my immune system was trying to handle the meds. With my immune system doing double or triple time trying to fight what th emeds were doing it made me CONSTANTLY tired. After droping them, I still had the issue with too much acids within my system, once again my immune system was working overtime and making me tired while trying to counter react the acids issue. On my own I started taking omeprazole to combat the acids issue until my pancrease regained muscles to function proper. Even after it had gotten better for functionality, I still take one omeprazole every other day. My new doctor is a naturalistic doctor. I explained a lot of stuff and my beliefs as well as my 'witchcraft' ways of healing my colon plus repairing the issue with having those meds dumped into my body and the damage they had caused. She laughed and said this "Us doctors are witches actually, we use anything that we hear about to better our practices even if it comes from 'witches' beliefs. We are still learning too." She told me to keep on doing what I have been doing. Trust me, not breaking my arm patting myself on the back but I am a brain... thorough and knowledgeable to the hilt on anything techno when it comes to resolving issues with nearly everything. My new doc and I get along well. We are on the same level with our beliefs. All that I can say is that if you have been going downhill since you have been put on those meds, for sure consult your doctors if you trust them. There are alternatives out there to those meds. Remember though, every person is different. Example is if someone had a heart attack because of cholesterol build up within their arteries, a major diet plan would be in order and in my eyes, not dumping these two harmful meds into your body because of their side effects plus how your immune system reacts to them. I will repeat, everyone reacts differently. In my case, I was able to go cold turkey but address the acids issue within my body which the meds had created. Take care and I do hope for the best within your improvement !!

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Clee1124 28M
4 posts
12/11/2021 4:44 pm

Sorry to hear about your heart attack and how it/the meds are affecting your drive and ability to see others. That sounds hard to go through.

I have considered an ethical non-monogamous/poly relationship before but haven't tried it out yet. I don't see anything wrong with it as long as both people are okay with it. I think it takes a lot of communication and very open-minded people to go against the norm. There are 7 some billion people out there on the planet, of course we're going to be attracted to someone other than our partner when we're in a relationship. The idea of monogamy is great for supporting a family, and it also has roots in religion, but apart from those two scenarios there's no good reason to need to be monogamous, unless you just prefer it.

I would be open to discussing it with a partner in the future. I think it could be fun and relationship-building if you make it a shared experience where you both help each other find suitable partners and are able to discuss your experiences with them. Make sure one person isn't getting a lot more attention than the other. It would require a lot of communication and trust and the discussion of boundaries as well, if there are any. It's interesting because poly relationship boundaries differ from couple to couple.


easyrider4008 67M
2562 posts
12/12/2021 4:03 am

An interesting question you pose, my experience was when an ex wanted to get back together but this was after she had developed a vaginal condition the name I cannot remember which could only be corrected by surgery which she didn't want to have as there is a cancer risk after the surgery. We discussed the situation and I made it clear that I wasn't about to spend the rest of my life celibate and I suggested anal and oral sex as an alternative , to my surprise she suggested that I find a fwb after some thought I decided against the idea as I could not guarantee my feelings for her would remain the same for her if I was have sex with another I also considered finding a bi lady as my ex had had one or two affairs with women when we had been together (not that I was part of that or knew about it at the time) If you can be honest about and it suits your needs good for you.


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