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Common courtesy, bestowed upon either gender is never unfashionable.
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It is all in the way you were raised. I was taught to respect everyone regardless of race gender or any of the other files they put themselves in. 4 out of my 6 children act the same way by example
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It's not dead for me, but sadly it's fading more and more because of the lack of people being raised the right way.
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Everyone should hold a door for everyone, no matter the gender or age. It is just manners.
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Just saw a guy let a door slam into a female as he walked in before her. ..... Good ! They say chivalry is dead. .. .And for good reason. Women made a fuss and whinge about being treated as social equals. ...And men allowed this to happen. .... Now these cows are marching about saying down with patriarchy, the future is female. You wouldn't understand how insulting that really is toward men because you're so young , and came of age in the gayest decades of US history. Others, myself included, think it’s only proper to be chivalrous to women. ... It isn't. Actually today, that is improper behavior towards women. If women actually think she is socially equal to men, then the man doing what you are doing is telling her [and anyone observing] he's a doormat , with no self esteem. Open doors, pull out chairs, attend to their needs .... You're kind of pathetic. The only woman you MIGHT , and I stress "Might" do that for, is the woman that has deserved that behavior from you. ...And in general, women do not deserve special treatment.
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I don’t understand your response. ... You're not reading carefully enough. You talk about how idiotic times have become since “the good ol days” ..... Not "Idiotic". Just the rules have changed, and men have to adapt, not play per the old rules. and yet you go along with it in the most extreme ways. ... Not extreme... just new rules . Respect has nothing to do with social statuses and neither does it matter when it comes to a female. ... Respect is earned , social status or female... always earned. I wouldn’t let a door slam on any person. ..... Well... okay. Show some common courtesy and respect for a fellow person. ... That's not the subject of your Post.[to which I responded] ... you had centered on being chivalrous to"Women". It is no longer appropriate for a man to demean himself by being chivalrous to women he has no intimate history with. Manners should never be dead. ... Shouldn't be... and are not... just evolved. Different now. As for chivalry towards the opposite sex: that shouldn’t be dead either. ... In general it is. To a specific female whom you have intimate history with, it's alive and kicking. Stop doormating yourself. Because there should be patriarchy in that way. ... Sure, to a woman you have intimate history with... not "Women". Also "Women" want to do away with patriarchy. But it doesn't matter to HER if you play the fool, as she wants to get rid of it. It’s how we were born. It’s biological. It’s genetical. .... No .. it's taught by example and taught through stories of yore. Somewhere along your childhood, your mom [most likely] insisted you behave that way, and your pliable mind said, "Okay mommy". There are certain things guys are naturally born to do and certain things women are naturally born to do. ..... Yes, I totally agree with you, different roles, different capabilities....but the girls want to do it all now... so allow them to evolve that way..... but in the mean time step aside, stop making a fool of your self, don't reach for the door , don't get her a chair, don't stand up when she enters the room, she can buy her own drinks.
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